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I'm not sure the Roanoke bits belong here. Just over 100 people does not make a city. I don't know where else to put it though. --KQ

No, probably not but it will fit into what will prove a nice little catchment point. sjc


I don't think the capital of Atlantis was called Mu-Mu, though. Mu was a far later mythology; and the `Justified Ancients of MuMu?' in Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus trilogy merely muddy the water further.

Wasn't there an arabian city that got lost, as climate change and the shift of trade routes led to it being abandoned, and even its location being forgotton?

How about adding Pompeii and Heculaneum under this category? Not lost as in misplaced, but lost as in destroyed -- Malcolm Farmer


The lost Arabian city was Ubar. Some orbital photographs taken from the shuttle showed ancient tracks that archaeologists home in on a site, which was shown to be Ubar in 1992. --PaulDrye
You mean the K.L.F. and Miss Tammy Wynette got Mu-mu wrong? Naw!! Actually, you're right - Atlantis is the city and the island (I'm having to reread the Republic this week, God help me). I'm all in favor of natural-disaster-cities, and we should add "Akrotiri, island of Thera" to the list (high on the 'possible Atlantides' chart at the moment for people who refuse to believe that Plato was making it up). --MichaelTinkler
I think we should add Pompeii and Heculaneum, with a qualification about the meanings of "lost."
How about those lost and found? For example, someone found Alexandria under water. Is it considered lost any more?


I've incorporated some of the above suggestions into the main page. Now, where do Angkor Wat, Macchu Picchu (if that's how it's spelled) and those Mayan cities buried in the jungle fit into this? In the case of the Peruvian city, do Spaniards count as a natural disaster? Do crop failures count? IIRC, that's one of the current theoiries about the Mayan collapse
Troy shouldn't be in tha list of cities "not rebuilt". I understand that it was destroyed and rebuilt about 6 times, just wasn't rebuilt after the last destuction.

Also, Carthage was rebuilt by the later Romans, and I believe existed continuously until being absorbed as a suburb of Tunis. I really don't think a list is appropriate here, simply because there will be an absolutely huge number of cities that got depopulated at some point or another: Ur, Babylon, Hattusas, Washukanni, Ctesiphon, Ecbatana, and so forth, just off the top of my head from one region of the world. Examples should be given in the text, that's good enough. If anyone disagrees, the list consisted of Troy, Carthage, Sodom, and Gomorrah, and they are welcome to restore it.


Btw, the eruption of a volcano causing extensive damage to the Minoan palaces is well documented, but isn't it general consensus nowadays that they quickly recovered and mainly collapsed due to interference from the Mycenaean mainland?

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