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Revision 25 . . October 22, 2001 5:50 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 24 . . October 22, 2001 5:29 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 23 . . October 22, 2001 2:53 am by Magnus Manske [I think we can come to a solution here]
Revision 22 . . October 22, 2001 2:40 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 21 . . October 21, 2001 3:46 pm by Magnus Manske [New suggestion!]
Revision 20 . . October 20, 2001 6:18 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 19 . . (edit) October 20, 2001 4:57 am by The Cunctator [*Don't you mean "proponents of subpages"? And, what will be done with September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack? ]
Revision 18 . . October 20, 2001 4:57 am by The Cunctator [*Don't you mean "proponents of subpages"? And, what will be done with September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack? ]
Revision 17 . . October 20, 2001 4:08 am by Magnus Manske [Few answers, few questions]
Revision 16 . . October 20, 2001 1:28 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 15 . . October 19, 2001 10:25 pm by Magnus Manske [Suggestions for compromise]
Revision 14 . . October 19, 2001 2:24 am by Anatoly Vorobey [mode debate]
Revision 13 . . October 19, 2001 2:20 am by Anatoly Vorobey [more debate]
Revision 12 . . October 19, 2001 2:16 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 11 . . October 19, 2001 2:00 am by Anatoly Vorobey
Revision 10 . . October 19, 2001 1:29 am by Larry Sanger
Revision 9 . . October 18, 2001 10:50 pm by Koyaanis Qatsi
Revision 8 . . October 18, 2001 1:30 pm by Josh Grosse
Revision 7 . . October 18, 2001 1:24 pm by Larry Sanger
Revision 6 . . October 18, 2001 1:22 pm by Larry Sanger
Revision 5 . . October 18, 2001 12:26 pm by The Cunctator [*Removing pro-subpage arguments is weaselly at best]
Revision 4 . . (edit) October 18, 2001 11:23 am by Koyaanis Qatsi
Revision 3 . . October 18, 2001 11:22 am by Koyaanis Qatsi [hey larry, i see you're editing the main page, so i'm answering your question here.]
Revision 2 . . October 16, 2001 11:10 am by Mark Christensen [This is much better. Clean and usefull. Please move all subpage related issues here, but keep the format.*]
Revision 1 . . October 16, 2001 10:44 am by ManningBartlett [centralise debate *here*]
  

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Added: 24a25
****I've copied your remarks, above, to /Evaluation? and added a reply. --LMS

Added: 38a40
:::I don't care that talk pages are "ugly." In fact, I don't particularly care that talk pages not be subpages, except insofar as adding that functionality allows people to make article subpages. What I mainly care about is getting rid of encyclopedia articles on subpages; see Wikipedia subpages pros and cons under "contra subpages." You can evaluate those arguments in /Evaluation?... --LMS

Changed: 70c72
::Oh! Great! I didn't notice...here's a way to make it more noticable: make the link blue (not green) and underlined, like the other links, so one can easily tell that it's a link. Omit the word "namespaces" which many people won't understand. The link test might read like this: "Discuss this page". I don't like that specific text because it invites people to blather on about the topic, as they so love to do, instead of working on the article. So maybe something like this: "Discuss how to edit this page" or "Discuss edits to this page" or "Discuss changes to this page". Probably, "Discuss changes to this page" is best. --~~~
::Oh! Great! I didn't notice...here's a way to make it more noticable: make the link blue (not green) and underlined, like the other links, so one can easily tell that it's a link. Omit the word "namespaces" which many people won't understand. The link test might read like this: "Discuss this page". I don't like that specific text because it invites people to blather on about the topic, as they so love to do, instead of working on the article. So maybe something like this: "Discuss how to edit this page" or "Discuss edits to this page" or "Discuss changes to this page". Probably, "Discuss changes to this page" is best. --LMS

Added: 71a74
::Woo-hoo! You mean that all [[/Talk]] pages are converted to [[Talk:Foo]] pages automatically, renamed and everything? What would be even cooler is if [[/Talk]] were on its own line, as most talk page links are, and the link were removed automatically--the link will now automatically be there on every page, as you say below. ... Hmm, on second thought, maybe you're not saying all this. :-) It would still be cool if you could do that. --LMS

Changed: 75c78,79
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::As to #3, I'd agree to converting /Talk? pages into Talk: pages upon being saved, rather than Foo/Talk pages. As to #4, I'm very resistant to this. We possess the capability to do it, and doing it would be cool from a programming point of view. It would make things a little easier for those who would want to continue to use something like talk pages for their articles. But this is functionality that I think in the end is damaging--not devastating, of course, but damaging.
::Hey, good luck with your finals, Magnus. Don't let your grades suffer for Wikipedia. :-) --LMS

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