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Revision 7 . . December 4, 2001 12:55 am by MichaelTinkler [moving to Eastern Orthodoxy Talk]
Revision 6 . . December 4, 2001 12:54 am by MichaelTinkler
Revision 5 . . December 4, 2001 12:49 am by (logged).109.250.xxx
Revision 4 . . December 4, 2001 12:44 am by (logged).146.101.xxx [loaded terms?]
Revision 3 . . December 3, 2001 10:32 pm by Ed Poor [examples of loaded terms]
Revision 2 . . December 3, 2001 10:28 pm by (logged).146.101.xxx [nomenclature, external links]
Revision 1 . . December 3, 2001 8:58 pm by MichaelTinkler [this nomenclature is not useful]
  

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This nomenclature is not what has been developing on Wikipedia, nor is it the common nomenclature in real life. The Orthodox of my acquaintance tend to say 'The Orthodox'. If we used 'Orthodox Christianity for this group (and under the rules of NPOV we have to consider the churches and denominations 'groups') the group currently entered under Catholicism should be [Catholic Christianity], and instead of Protestantism we should have [Protestant Christianity]. If someone had written this article at [Eastern Orthodoxy] it would have lit up lots and lots of links. I, too, think that Eastern Orthodoxy is an inadequate name, but then so are most of the religious group names. Sorry about that. This should be an umbrella entry anyway, to be followed by entries for [Russian Orthodox Church]?, etc., etc. I'm still drinking coffee or I'd move this myself. I may do so later. --MichaelTinkler.

:I agree. To be consistent with existing nomenclature, the main article should probably be at Eastern Orthodoxy, with redirects from Orthodox Christianity and Eastern Orthodox Christianity to activate lots of existing links.
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:I've been thinking about starting this article for a little while now; I'm glad someone else got the ball rolling. Would it be appropriate to include external links to the main home pages of each of the major Orthodox jurisdictions, i.e. Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, etc.? Should [Russian Orthdoxy]? and similar topics redirect here, or have a stub entry with a See Also that points here? Thanks. --Wesley


Terms describing the various religious divisions tend to be loaded, often distinguishing between us and them, valid and invalid.

Us-them Examples:
*Christian - Heathen
*Muslim - Infidel

Valid-invalid examples:
*Christian - Cult
*Christian - Catholic (Note: this may belong more to us-them)
*Catholic - Protestant (Note: this may belong more to us-them)
:Satirized on www.onion.com as Catholic - Hellbound :-)

--Ed Poor

:Are you suggesting this article includes some loaded terms that should be revised? I'm not saying it doesn't, because I haven't read the article while looking for that sort of thing. --Wesley

I think the term "Eastern Orthodox", while obiviously loaded (orthodox meaning right belief after all), is so widely used (both by them and by non-Orthodox Christians and by non-Christians even) that it really doesn't cause a problem. Orthodox in this context has over time changed its meaning from "those who have the right belief" to "those who believe what the Eastern Chalcedonian church believes". It has lost its inherent bias by the force of centuries -- SJK


Of course it would be handy if this were a better article. since no one seems to mind (though the author hasn't weighed in), I'll move it. --MichaelTinkler.


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