I know all you history buffs will love a web site i found that links the Merovingians to the Annanuki, Atlanteans, and somehow to a Divine Race. No this is not the "divine right of kings" idea.
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I had a look at this. It is likely to appeal to people interested in mythology and legend more than, or as well as, hard history (includes me). The Atlantean mythos certainly needs a good going over by someone who knows what they are on about. sjc
- Oh no! Next we'll be into the Holy Blood Holy Grail stuff about the Merovingians as the lineal descendents of Jesus and Mary Magdalene and how Charlemagne and the Church suppressed all this! Medieval history is complicated enough without conspiracy theory added to it. There's an excellent book whose first third explains the Carolingian takeover as well as anything in English - Rosamund Mckitterick's Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians. --MichaelTinkler
- My fears exactly. I thought it best to jump on top of it before it gets out of hand :-) sjc
- It is clearly true that conspiracies have a role in history, although not necessarily one as severe as that claimed by some authors. As well, there doesn't appear to be any Prima Facie reason why the (possibly) historical character of Jesus could not have had children who were somehow transported to Europe. Also, the Catholic Church was, as I understand it, complicit in withholding certain of the Dead Sea Scrolls, so I don't understand why you treat the scholarship of Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln with such derision. It is certainly more well-documented than the history books with which I was taught in High School, which are meant to be accepted as fact.
- Sorry to sound upset, but I'm just not sure how your objections to "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail" are valid. Alex Kennedy
Not to worry. I am not going to insult the excellent history writers on wiki with my own views. The link was provided mainly for entertainment.
- <i>Hi Alex -- just so you know, Michael Tinkler and I are both perfeshnul medievalists -- my specialty is 7th through 10th c. Francia. The fact that HBHG is well documented doesn't count for a lot -- they don't really use their sources critically, and there JUST ISN'T ANY PROOF! I'll leave the rest of this to some of the others -- I've only read the book once -- I know there are other wikipedians who have actually read it more than that! JHK
codswallop. Maybe I should add it to lectures to spice things up?
JHK
Indubitably... it had me in stitches. sjc
I'll give one example from the HBHG mythos. Baigent et al. claim that one of their main sources of information was in periodical folders in the Bibliotheque Nationale, and that each time they went and requested the folder there was different information in it.
Someone was feeding them the information, they deduced. In other words, they have insulated themselves against verification and/or falsifiability on the part of other working scholars by saying 'even if you went and requested the folder you wouldn't necessarily find what we found.' That is not helpful. It's not scholarship. It's fiction. Of course the mythical Priory of Sion could be in secret control of the largest library in France, and could wait and watch for Baigent, but why? Their reasons for why this dark secret was revealed to
them (which, given their 'research methodology' of going and re-requesting the same folder, it must have been a process of revelation) is also, to say the least, unconvincing. If you want to read a real scholar of 'things esoteric' who works in such a way that others can, at least, read the same things she's reading and see if she's interpreting them correctly or not, try Frances Yates on
The Rosicrucian Enlightenment,
The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age,
The Art of Memory, and
Giordano Bruno and the hermetic tradition. She's the
real deal. Michael Baigent, on the other hand, works for the BBC equivalent of 'In Search Of.' Sorry to sound like an academic snob, but there it is. --
MichaelTinkler
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