One more thing, the ANDRUS cited are the memoirs of Burton Andrus, The Commandant of Nuremburg Prison in his book "The Infamous of Nuremberg". We can probably take a few of these independent sources and cite them to make clear that this isn't an "urban legend" -- Chenyu |
Sorry, but, who measured this? Were they all subjected to an IQ test, or are they some bogus numbers as the IQ of Newton, Gauss and others that the one of the creators of the IQ tests made up?
This reminds me of a file that circulates on the net, purporting to be a ranking of the IQs of recent presidents. It's a political jab, but it gets passed around as if based on a real study of some kind. All the Democrats rank high, all the Republicans rank low, with George W the lowest of all, at below-average. It's completely bogus, but that doesn't stop people from circulating it. Perhaps this is the same.
The information is supposed to come from this book, which looks more or less legit to me: [amazon]
[ISBN 0306806614 (amazon.com, search)]
It may be that this information is true and perhaps of some historical interest after all. But we need to research it more. --Jimbo
Name | IQ |
---|---|
[Hjalmar Schacht]? | 143 |
[Arthur Seyss-Inquar]? | 141 |
Hermann Goering | 138 |
Karl Doenitz | 138 |
[Franz von Papen]? | 134 |
[Eric Raeder]? | 134 |
[Hans Frank]? | 130 |
[Baldur von Schirach]? | 130 |
[Joachim von Ribbentrop]? | 129 |
[Wilhelm Keitel]? | 129 |
Albert Speer | 128 |
[Alfred Jodl]? | 127 |
[Alfred Rosenberg]? | 127 |
[Constantin von Neurath]? | 125 |
[Walther Funk]? | 124 |
[Wilhelm Frick]? | 124 |
Rudolf Hess | 120 |
[Fritz Sauckel]? | 118 |
Ernst Kaltenbrunner | 113 |
[Julius Streicher]? | 106 |
FWIW, there is a reference to IQ tests being administered at Nuremberg in
http://www.law.syr.edu/academics/nuremberg.pdf
It's a 110 page article on the relationship between hate speech and human rights law, but it contains the paragraph
Much was made by trial commentators that Streicher ranked last in the list of IQ scores of the 21 defendants.81 Although ultimately found to be sane, his Nuremberg attorney, Hanns Marx, a former Party member, had petitioned the tribunal for a psychiatric evaluation, apparently because Streicher's "anti- Semitic obsession was so dominant in his behavior that Marx could get nowhere with him in preparing a defense, and concluded that his client had a 'diseased mind'."82
The footnote (81) says
Id. at 376. Tests were administered by Dr. G.M. Gilbert, the official prison psychologist. Id. at 150. His report on Streicher stated: "No true psychiatric diagnosis but this man is of a personality structure which borders on the frankly normal and which brought him into difficulties even in the pathological social environment of the Third Reich." Quoted by ANDRUS, supra note 60 at 105.
-- Chenyu