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Revision 7 . . December 14, 2001 1:29 am by MichaelTinkler
Revision 6 . . December 14, 2001 1:23 am by (logged).146.101.xxx [Eastern Orthodox ordinations require the "Amen" of the people.]
Revision 5 . . August 28, 2001 10:38 pm by MichaelTinkler [code of canon law info]
  

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::Requiring the Amen for validity and requiring the actual approval of a vote of the people are, of course, different things. In the the Roman Empire there was often an acclamatio for public events - the arrival of an emperor, the appointment of an emperor, etc. We can treat that as a vote or as a public gesture under duress (sometimes we know it was that - soldiers standing around with weapons). There is a similar acclamation remaining in the Western ordination liturgies for priests and bishops, but no one pretends that the candidates are actually elected by local congregations. Liturgy and ecclesiastical organization are closely related but not identical. Unless we can find cases where men dressed for the ordination ceremony are regretfully sent back to the monastery while someone else is ordained, I think it's better to understand this 'requirement' as acclamatio and not electio. --MichaelTinkler

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