Emperors of Japan/Talk

Why not "Emperor X of Japan," which is one normal way of referring to kings, emperors, etc.? [Japanese emperor--X]? seems rather awkward to me. --LMS

Hi Larry, I started preparing this 3-4 weeks ago, and this format was at the time the suggested replacement for subpages. (you might even have suggested it yourself at some stage :-) )- clasqm

Heh, but subpages are evil :-) Acually, in this instance, I think "Emperor X of Japan" (or even "Emperor X" if there are no name collisions) would be nicer, since all other monarchs seems to get their own pages (as well as all other historical persons). I'll pitch in and help you convert the references if you'd like. --Anders Törlind

I converted them to "Emperor X of Japan" style (it only took a couple of minutes in Emacs). But I think "Emperor X" would be better, since collisions with non-Japanese emperors seem unlikely. We need to decide this before too many articles on individual emperors get written. --Zundark, 2001 Nov 22

Thanks, Zundark - I fixed the half-dozen empresses that you gave a posthumous sex change :-). I think "Emperor X of Japan" might have advantages when it comes to search engines and so on, though - clasqm

Oops, sorry about the empresses - I didn't notice them. --Zundark, 2001 Nov 22

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I think this "Emperor X of Japan" business is kind of silly. Why should the Gemmei article not be at Gemmei? rather than Empress Gemmei of Japan, if there is no other use of that word. Articles about people should be titled with either their names [Mary Stuart]? or the most common usage [Mary, Queen of Scots]?.

Because the average reader of an English-language encyclopedia probably won't know that Gemmei was an empress, or that she was japanese. Even [[Henry I} is currently being redone as Henry I of England to distinguish him from [Henry I of France]? etc etc. What you suggest is great in terms of pure hyperlinking, but people also come to these pages through our own search function and outside search engines, and the first thing they see in the search results is the page title. The more relevant info in there the better. let's say I came here because I did a search for Japan on Google. "Gemmei" is meaningless unless you already know Japanese history. "Empress Gemmei of Japan" is meaningful. - clasqm