Pro-feminist/Talk

Moved entry to / Talk because I believe it to be incorrect and offensive.

"Pro-feminist"

"A male feminist. Maintream feminism generally prefer this term for feminist men instead of "feminist", rationalizing that men can't be real feminists because they aren't women and that's why the feminist movement has to be sexually exclusive. See feminism"

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WTF? Did we completely give up on the idea of neutrality? Maybe people who don't know what they're talking about shouldn't write about it?

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No, we absolutely have not given up on the idea of neutrality. Please see neutral point of view.

It really bothers me that some people are using Wikipedia as a platform for bias of any sort. The original entry was out of line: no, it's silly to assert that "pro-feminist" just means "male feminist," and the purpose of the entry itself, as presented, is nothing other than to diss feminists! Moreover, just completely deleting it strikes me as also slightly out of line. Any deletion of significant amounts of text should be explained clearly, and politely.

I have a suggestion: partisans, avoid writing on subjects about which you are partisans, unless you can write in such a way as not to cause other people to get their panties (or knickers, if you prefer) in a bunch! --LMS

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I don't know whether it needs its own article, or merely a quick mention in the feminism article, but pro-feminist could be defined as:

A pro-feminist supports the views and goals of feminism. While the term may be used in the general sense, some writers apply it only to men, believing that the feminist movement has to be sexually exclusive.

Is this neutral enough for use (somewhere)? Ed Poor

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Just what is supposed to be the difference between a "feminist" and a "pro-feminist"?

According to the version I wrote, none (except that some exclusionary feminists want to call male feminists "pro-feminists" rather than "feminists". I'm not sure a separate article is needed at all. Ed Poor

Exactly. Pro-feminism is an expresion of anti-male contempt by feminists. However maybe that sort of thing belongs in the feminism article / sub-heading of feminist attitudes to men and women, rather than in a stub. I can go along with this white-wash stub for now but in a longer article (ie an actual encyclopedia rather than dictionary article) you'd have to explore the inherent anti-male contempt in "pro-feminist". David Byron

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As a matter of interest does anyone know of any female "pro-feminists"?