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Revision 6 . . February 14, 2001 5:57 am by AyeSpy
Revision 5 . . February 14, 2001 4:12 am by LarrySanger [* Reply, very interesting Ravi]
Revision 4 . . February 14, 2001 1:48 am by AyeSpy
Revision 3 . . February 14, 2001 1:10 am by RaviDesai
Revision 2 . . February 14, 2001 12:37 am by AyeSpy [Did you read the whole article carefully?]
Revision 1 . . February 13, 2001 10:32 pm by RaviDesai
  

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"AyeSpy wrote:


If you read the next to last paragraph of his essay/lecture, you see the outline of your own argument above. You will also see that his conclusion is that the argument claiming that the existence of evil disproves God, fails.

Did I really say that? I shouldn't have, if so." -- LarrySanger

I should put this differently: If you are persuaded, as I am, that premise (5) does not logically fit any known data, then the combination of an all.../all.../all... God is not disproven by the ProblemOfEvil? argument, as one of its necessary premises fails. This, in combination with the second-to-last paragraph seem compatible with Ravi's stance, just not as emotionally so.

Obviously, if you believe an all-loving God cannot permit evil, then you must bow to the force of the original argument. But then you would also have to believe that a loving mother could not visit unpleasantness and therefore discipline upon her child, since the child obviously would not find discipline pleasant. A Christian believer already believes, likely, that scripture supports discipline as essential to love. For this reason, It would appear futile for an atheist to attemt to pursuade a Christian with the ProblemOfEvil?. He might pursuade non-believers, but then what would be the point? He'd be "preaching to the choir." Heh heh ;^)

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