Wikipedia: Thermodynamics/Talk

Vhung wrote what looks like a brand new Thermodynamics article. Why? Why not try to adapt the old one, or, if the old one is irremediably bad, why not move it to a /Talk page? Basically, we don't want to have to vote about which version is the best. That's not the wiki way... --LMS 0th-law:

It is possible to build a thermometer.
That is: If objects A and B are in thermal equilibrium with each other, and objects B and C are in thermal equilibrium with each other, then objects A and C are also in thermal equilibrium with each other.
Two objects are in thermal equilibrium with each other, if their macroscopic properties, such as electrical resistance or volume, do not change with time when these objects are brought into thermal contact with each other.

Excised old version

1st-law:

Convervation of Energy

2nd-law:

Degradation of Energy (irreversibilities)
"Nothing goes without loss"
concept of Entropy (s)
T.ds = du + p.dv
T.ds = dh - v.dp

In lay terms,

You can't win.
You can't even break even.
And you can't get out of the game.

3rd-law:

At absolute zero, the Entropy of a Perfect crystal is zero.

Would it be unfair of me to suggest that this page requires some serious refactoring? :-) --LMS

Refactoring thermodynamics is best attempted by madmen or fools, or by foolish madmen such as [Clifford Truesdell]?.

There should be a reference to the relationship between Thermodinamics and Statistical Mechanics