Moved text from Jutland Penninsula (misspelled) to Jutland Peninsula
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Jylland is the Danish name for Juetland .
The Juetland Penninsula is the most northern part of Germany . On the northern part of Juetland Danish Germanic people came to live.
Juetland is named for the Germanic tribe of the Jueten- Jutes . Juete is the German word for plant fibres which rope is made out of.
For more details see Jutland
Juetland is the German name for the North German peninsula. Jylland is the Danish name. Some Angels Saxons and Juetes moved from continental Europe to Britain starting in 450 AD at the time of the onslaught of Huns ( and later Slavs) from Asia onto Europe. Angelland became the name Eng(el)land . Engel is the German word for angel.
The word Juete is German for plants , rope was made from for thousands of years. This material is in German language called Juete .
In another Indo-European language ,Sanskrit juta means matted hair, jata braid of hair , in East Ind. jhuto ,the same.
In other words it means exactly the same as the German word rope which consists of matted, braided hair (plant fibre).
When Danes came and attacked Juetlanders, they were forced to leave many sunken ships .In time the Frankish/German??? emperors subdued the Danish attackers by intermarriage between Juetlanders and Danes. The Juetland chiefs then were also made kings of Denmark by the emperors.
When Charlemagne/ Karl der Grosse , the Frankish king and later emperor fought his wars against the Saxons , they got help from Danes and from Baltic Prussian Galinder.
Charlemagne removed Saxons from east Juetland Schleswig-Holstein and Mecklenburg areas at the Baltic Sea and moved Abodrites, Obotrites (Wendish Slavs) , who pledged allegiance to Charlemagne , in instead. After Charlemagne butchered 4000 Saxons they were forced to take on Christianity . 150 years later they were emperors and Saxons regained their land over the centuries.
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- HJ, this is exactly the kind of not-very-useful etymological free-association I was talking about on other pages. You have leapt from Sanskrit to extreme northern continental Europe without ANY INTERMEDIATE STEPS. Now just because the words may be related does not mean "it means exactly the same". Another etymological note: I'll admit that this isn't much of a reference book - but I looked up Angle in my American Heritage Dictionary, which referred me to the etymological form ank-: :1. Gemranic *ang-ul- in: a. Old English angul, fishhook: ANGLE; b. Old English Engle, the Angles (<the shape of their original homeland, the Angul district of Schleswig). So, the word is related to Angle as in BEND rather than Angel or Engel. Your etymology is false. I'll be happy to look it up in the Oxford English Dictionary tomorrow at school (I keep my hard copy there). This is incorrect. How correct is your whole Braided hair = jutland business? And what DO the sunken ships have to do with it? The Charlemagne section is irrelevant to this - you can try to put it on the Saxon entry, and we'll deal with it there. It's historically off (he fought them continuously, not just one big slaughter of 4,000), poorly argued, and entirely NPOV. The regaining 'their' land parts is especially odd. By that point the Ottonians weren't very Saxon, after all - they'd had Frankish mothers, and even Greek mothers. So to call it 'their land' in an irredentist kind of tone is not helpful. --MichaelTinkler
is there any part of the history section that makes sense AND is accurate? And why is there mention of S-H and Mecklenburg -- they didn't exist under the Franks. [[JHK]
[[M.T. & JHK]] This "Jutland Penninsula" was left over from Sept 28, when the Jutland Peninsula was the outcome.
Nobody caught , that the " J.Penninsula" part was still there. I saw it Nov 11 and took it off
(removed it to talk) . No huffing and puffing required.
H. Jonat
This bit about the Franks subduing the Danes belongs in BJaOTPN?. The Danes put up the Danewerk, a massive wall, to keep the Franks out... sjc
- One of the problems about which I was "huffing and puffing." I really would like a source for Charlemagne subduing the Danes...JHK
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