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Cunc: I meant "intended to deceive" - mainly because I completely reject your assertion that the militia is "top-down". I accept that it is central, and authoritarian, just not "top down". (extensive reasons given on the militia talk page) Frankly Cunc - you're one of the brightest, smartest people I know, here or elsewhere, and I really have an abundance of respect for you. I just get disappointed that you expend so much effort on disputing Larry's every action and finding controversy where no-one else does, when you of all people have so much good to give to the entire project. It just really doesn't matter very much, in my opinion. - Manning Thanks for being understanding on VANDALISM IN PROGRESS/Talk. I'm really not trying to dispute Larry's every action; note, for example, that I'm "disputing" STG's VIP entry. My criticism is meant to improve and encourage; I hope that I have managed to never say that something is wrong without providing my reasoning, and most often explicitly presenting an alternative. It's demonstrably false to assert that I'm "finding controversy where no-one else does"; several other people, for example, expressed discontent or concern about many of the particulars of the Wikipedia Militia idea, notably its military, antagonistic language. And I'd say that's also a poor argument to use in such an environment as this; as we are not soliciting the opinions of everyone in Wikipedia, we cannot know what people's thoughts would be. It's certainly the case that there will be a correlation between what people say and what a) people think and b) what is the best course, but to argue that correlation is a strong one, as you are doing, is ill-founded, I believe. (In English: unpopular opinions are sometimes right.) I can think of numerous scenarios in which only one person presents information or an argument, and where that information is crucial and valid. (I'm not asserting that my arguments or contributions are necessarily so, of course, though any who wish to believe that are very welcome to do so.) It's fine if you think it doesn't matter very much. In fact, I'm willing to listen to your arguments as to why it doesn't... And the reason that I expend this effort is that I would very much like to encourage to this project, but as it now stands, I don't feel comfortable doing so. (I'd be happy to list specifics if necessary, because I don't want you to think I'm painting a picture of irreconcilable differences.) Also, as my handle suggests, I'm procrastinating. --TheCunctator |
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