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It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.
It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.

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It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.
It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.

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"Those Burgundians who settled in a large area from Burgundy to Swabia to Switzerland had some central area around Worms. Worms was already a center during Celtic times , then under Romans etc. H.J.?

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"In my initial entry I stated, that I started on Worms, not that I completed it. H.J."


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"In case you have not noticed, almost all the articles start out with just a few entries and other people add to it , or the same person goes back to it.
I do this as I have time. (Spending way too much time) H. Jonat"

Don't know who wrote the initial stub before Larry moved it, but it made no sense. Removed really odd, unconnected info, except the Judaism part -- when? how? Even if you put in a stub, it should include the following info:

Who or what -- like Worms is one of the oldest existing German cities (for example). A couple of facts about it -- It has been a cathedral city, diocesan seat, whatever, since the 4th century (or whenever). It was also the site of the [Diet of Worms]?, and therefore important in the Protestant Reformation BECAUSE...

Please note the BECAUSE -- if it's important enought ot write about, it's important enough to tell us why. JHK


This is the initial entry . Parts got apparently lost, while it was rescued from the Worms, the computer Worms , that is :

"Worms is a city in Germany.It is situated in the Rhineland area. In the early part of the 4st century , Worms under bishop Victor was a seperate bishopric , called Wormatia. It was part of the [Frankish Empire]? and later Holy Roman Empire.

It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.

It also was a center for Judaism.

External links:

Martin Luther statue and other sites : 1 A city view by [Sebastian Muenster]? in 1550 : 2 " H. Jonat

HJ -- I read all of that. I'm sorry, but it was just a bunch of facts that were not connected in any logical manner. The way it was written, one needs to ask the following questions--

In the early part of the 4st century , Worms under bishop Victor was a seperate bishopric , called Wormatia.

This makes no sense -- separate from WHAT? And Wormatia is just the Latin name -- it wasn't known (in writing) by any other that I know of, except perhaps Wormacensis.

It became a central part of the Burgundians who arrived from Eastern Germania between Oder and Vistula River.

How is a city a central part of a people? What do you mean by this? Moreover, When and Why?
"Those Burgundians who settled in a large area from Burgundy to Swabia to Switzerland had some central area around Worms. Worms was already a center during Celtic times , then under Romans etc. H.J.?

It also was a center for Judaism. When? How a "center"? What factors made this possible?

As for the links -- it's silly to put a link to Luther's statue unless you explain WHY there's a statue there. If the view is what I think it is, i.e., an aeriel view typical of the time, it's a cool picture, but why would we want to see a view dating to the 16th c.? Don't you think these things need explaining?

"In my initial entry I stated, that I started on Worms, not that I completed it. H.J."

Unless you are going to write something complete and sensible, i think it would be wise to leave a bare stub for someone else to add to. As it is, it's pretty pointless. I'm leaving it as I put it until you or someone else wants to turn it into a useful entry. JHK

"In case you have not noticed, almost all the articles start out with just a few entries and other people add to it , or the same person goes back to it. I do this as I have time. (Spending way too much time) H. Jonat"


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