Egolessness/Talk

I'd really like some scientific information. Despite the last Crowley quote, I don't want more names or identity statements so much as statements about what one might observe if one does such and such, preferably citing controlled studies for the psychological parts and multiple references for the historical parts. --Dan

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Re Larry: well, I'd like people to care what Crowley said about egolessness because I don't know of any other attempt to approach the subject scientifically. I considered putting it on the Crowley page, but historically very few of the people who chose to talk about Crowley have addressed his scientific claims. Most have seemed more interested in worshipping or attacking Crowley. I wanted to encourage people to discuss the scientific merits of his work. I realize of course that it lacks in controlled studies; I kind of hoped that some reader might have the resources to perform such studies, or know of previous investigations. I would not have placed such long quotes in the entry had someone else started an entry on the subject.

I noticed that someone made a request for this entry on the LSD page. This seems like a fine topic for investigation; does anyone know of any controlled studies connecting LSD with egolessness? If so, how closely does the egolessness in question resemble 'dhyana' 'atmadarshana' or 'shivadarshana'? Clearly if we can seem to duplicate any of these states pharmacologically, it would suggest that Crowley did not make everything up. I'll look around myself, but somehow I doubt everyone will feel satisfied with my choice of information. --Dan