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The story that Dodgson wanted to marry Alice Liddell is just a myth - there's no evidence it was ever true, and no evidence to show he was a paedophile. You should read "In the Shadow of the Dreamchild" by Karoline Leach - it's a great book. It reads like a detective story and separates all the many myths about Lewis Carroll from the truth, and shows everyone's had it pretty wrong about him. It's also gor some great investiagtion of the mysterious missing pages in his diary and how they came to be cut out.


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Do we need to sully this man's reputation with innuendo? Are we going to add innuendo to all the other people's entries that we may have heard rumours about?


What innuendo? That he took nude pictures of children is an easily verified historical fact. The book is still available in libraries in countries that don't have their heads up their ass about nudity the way the US does. It is not verifiable that he ever abused children in any way, and the article, properly, makes no such accusation. There is some evidence that he asked Alice Liddel's parents for permission to marry her, but again, no evidence of any abuse, and considerable evidence to suggest otherwise. --LDC
When Charles Lutwidge Dodgson was 31 and Alice Liddle was 11 he wanted to marry her but his proposition was declined by her parents.
Later when she was 13 he remarked that she had changed for the worse and lost all his interest in her. The same lack of interest after puberty ensued with almost 100 other girls. Notably he was never on friendly terms with boys.


The idea that Dodgson proposed marriage to Alice Liddell when she was eleven is an idea completely invented by modern day biographers. There is not a shred of evidence to show he ever did or that he ever even thought about doing so. There is likewise no evidence to show he was ever 'in love' with her or any other child.

As for his child nude photography. It looks weird to our eyes, but to the Victorians child-nudity was not only acceptable it was fashionable. Virtually all photographers did such studies and they were considered so innocent and inoffensive people even put images of nude children on Christmas cards. So, saying Dodgson must have been a paeddophile because he took phoographs of naked children simply displays our ignorance of his century.

And no Dodgson did NOT lose interest in girls after the age of puberty - this is simply a myth. In fact he had far more interest in older girls than in very tiny children. Most of his 'child-friends' were teenagers or even in their twenties. And during his lifetime he was gossiped about for his many 'unconventional' friendships with married woman.

You really need to get acquainted with the latest research on the matter.


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