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Dmerrill, I don't how the fact that this group has a Yahoo discussion group entails that the organization is no more than that discussion group. If that were the case, I'd agree that we should probably remove the article. But since the group was allegedly founded in the mid-80s and seems (though I really haven't a clue, myself) to be influential in the "masculinist" movement, on what grounds can the entire deletion of the article be justified?

Looking at a Google search, I'm beginning to come around to your opinion, David. Just from that source it looks like there's some reason to think Tom Smith is just a particularly active member of the masculist movement (which is, contrary to something you wrote somewhere, most certainly a bona fide movement, albeit small). I'm not sure that he or the American Union of Men is particularly important in this movement. --LMS

The article follows:

The American Union of Men is a men's movement organization founded by Tom Smith in the mid-1980s that is one of the first anti-feminist and masculist organizations. Tom Smith's "Masculist Trinity" forms the ideological base for the organization and is an early ideological influence in the men's movement.

The AUM claims to be a "leftist" group, but leftists, feminists and progressives are critical of groups such as the AUM which claim to be leftist or progressive, but which support gender roles and other non-leftist concepts. Progressives, in general, believe each individual should be able to establish their own role in society, not have one imposed based on their gender. For this reason, as well as their position on taxation and other issues, progressives would generally characterize the AUM as a rightist organization.

"AUM" Newsgroup: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aum/?yguid=22765296

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