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Revision 16 . . December 6, 2001 1:27 am by Paul Drye [Revert. Watch for "H.W. Clihor", folks]
Revision 15 . . December 6, 2001 12:42 am by H.W. Clihor
Revision 14 . . (edit) November 21, 2001 2:36 am by (logged).121.110.xxx [*Added a date, simplified grammar of lead sentence]
Revision 13 . . November 17, 2001 10:05 am by (logged).109.250.xxx [infralapsarians vs. supralapsarians]
Revision 12 . . (edit) November 17, 2001 7:09 am by (logged).121.110.xxx [*grammar]
Revision 11 . . November 17, 2001 7:09 am by (logged).121.110.xxx [*clarifying predestination. Deleted the word "reward" because no reward is involved in salvation.]
Revision 10 . . November 17, 2001 3:31 am by (logged).228.142.xxx [Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God]
Revision 9 . . November 16, 2001 2:13 pm by Wesley [Added a Talk page]
Revision 8 . . (edit) November 1, 2001 1:36 pm by Wesley [typos]
  

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[H.W. Clihor] in his writings of 1992 - 2000 explains predestination, a tenant of not only infallability but also omniscience from a somewhat different point of view. For predestination to exist in any causal system it implies deliberate structure. For deliberate structure to exist implies willful action. Since a diety in whatever system listed above has imposed deliberate action implies forknowledge of what those actions entail and their end result. This implies knowledge of outcome. In a causal sense, it implies knowledge of some future destination. In the following example what is more miraculous. A) That Moses upon hearing the Egyptian army on his heels collaspes the Red Sea to drown his attakers... or B) That a diety knowing from the be beginning of time that the Island of Thera across the Mediterrean sea would explode, sending a tidal wave across the sea to drown the army pursuing Moses days or hours later, and that it would only arrive just after Moses departed. To his mind, the latter. It implies a detailed manipulation of all matter and its interactions in the universe.

However, for this causal predeterminism to exist, there must be a quantized maximum unit of unchangeable time. That is, to manipulate matter on this scale over such a long period, time must have a quantizable unit, which if manipulated below that threshold applies NO CHANGE to reality, but above does. In this argument, time must first be defined. From there the logical conclusion of what predeterminism is may be defined as knowing where the end point is by being there, and then thrust back to the beginning making it all happen again.

H.W. Clihor makes this cognitive leap by illustrating the story of the Hindu God Brahma. According to legend, every eon Brahma tears himself to pieces and reality takes place while those pieces come back together over time. The astronomical big bang theory is similar. If the pieces of the universe thrown to the cosmos continue to congeal into black holes at the centers of swirling galaxies, and ultimately the galaxies succumb to attraction and fall togethre as super-black holes, eventually the universe will fall back upoon itself. While crude, the elegant simplicity of these examples illustrate H.W. Clihor's view that God comes not from the past but from our future, and that all time once defined will simply reveal that the creator is remapping the universe to get back to that seminal point.


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